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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gerald! Thanks for taking the time to post such an informative comment. Good for you for stepping up to take a class to sharpen your skills. I feel your pain. I too have been discouraged with my painting progress at times. It seems like anything else, that practice, practice and more practice is required to get over the hump before something gets to the fun stage. I experienced the same thing learning to play the guitar. My fingers would not move with any amount of grace until I put a ton of hours in.

Keep practicing and look for small victories in each of your projects big or small. I find that I am not always happy with the whole piece but do like certain parts of it. Take those victories as inspiration to keep going.

Also, maybe tackle less complex subjects until your eyes and hands are trained to work together to get the shapes and forms right. In the end, they are just abstract shapes that have lines, edges and values to define them. Just draw an apple first. Once you conquer that, add another object and nail that. Try to forget about what you are drawing so can really see the shape. Our eyes play tricks on us and our socialization sways our visual perception. Really look at the objects and ask yourself why it look like it is front of another. It may have everything to do with the shadows on the object behind it! Most of all keep going and don&#039;t let your discouragement hold you back. We all go though it - even the most seasoned of artists!

Take care,
Lee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gerald! Thanks for taking the time to post such an informative comment. Good for you for stepping up to take a class to sharpen your skills. I feel your pain. I too have been discouraged with my painting progress at times. It seems like anything else, that practice, practice and more practice is required to get over the hump before something gets to the fun stage. I experienced the same thing learning to play the guitar. My fingers would not move with any amount of grace until I put a ton of hours in.</p>
<p>Keep practicing and look for small victories in each of your projects big or small. I find that I am not always happy with the whole piece but do like certain parts of it. Take those victories as inspiration to keep going.</p>
<p>Also, maybe tackle less complex subjects until your eyes and hands are trained to work together to get the shapes and forms right. In the end, they are just abstract shapes that have lines, edges and values to define them. Just draw an apple first. Once you conquer that, add another object and nail that. Try to forget about what you are drawing so can really see the shape. Our eyes play tricks on us and our socialization sways our visual perception. Really look at the objects and ask yourself why it look like it is front of another. It may have everything to do with the shadows on the object behind it! Most of all keep going and don&#8217;t let your discouragement hold you back. We all go though it &#8211; even the most seasoned of artists!</p>
<p>Take care,<br />
Lee</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Greenblatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerald Greenblatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am currently taking a class in still life painting.

After yesterday&#039;s class I was quite demoralized.

I set up my subjects, looked at them, and didn&#039;t know where to start drawing. I held my arm out straight, pencil in hand, trying to measure heights and widths.....of the vase, the tangerines, the tray. My head was spinning because I just didn&#039;t know where to begin or how to proceed in the task of placing the scene accurately on the canvas!

I made the effort, but it looked inaccurate.

After half an hour, my teacher came by and sat at my easel. Trying not to be a whining student, I calmly explained that I was having trouble...that although I had taken a drawing class in 2008, I hadn&#039;t been practicing at all. 

( I didn&#039;t tell him that I had been using photos and transfering the contours of my subjects to the canvas not by drawing from life but with the grid method).

He extended his arm, pencil in hand as I had done, measuring and comparing and relating the size and position of one object to another...calculating angles etc. and with a sure hand he corrected my drawing. I so envied his ability.

I have a good eye. I can see very subtle differences in position and value.
But faced with this set-up I just didn&#039;t know how to start and continue the process of relating objects to one another. Is this something that can be explained?

Thank you!

g greenblatt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently taking a class in still life painting.</p>
<p>After yesterday&#8217;s class I was quite demoralized.</p>
<p>I set up my subjects, looked at them, and didn&#8217;t know where to start drawing. I held my arm out straight, pencil in hand, trying to measure heights and widths&#8230;..of the vase, the tangerines, the tray. My head was spinning because I just didn&#8217;t know where to begin or how to proceed in the task of placing the scene accurately on the canvas!</p>
<p>I made the effort, but it looked inaccurate.</p>
<p>After half an hour, my teacher came by and sat at my easel. Trying not to be a whining student, I calmly explained that I was having trouble&#8230;that although I had taken a drawing class in 2008, I hadn&#8217;t been practicing at all. </p>
<p>( I didn&#8217;t tell him that I had been using photos and transfering the contours of my subjects to the canvas not by drawing from life but with the grid method).</p>
<p>He extended his arm, pencil in hand as I had done, measuring and comparing and relating the size and position of one object to another&#8230;calculating angles etc. and with a sure hand he corrected my drawing. I so envied his ability.</p>
<p>I have a good eye. I can see very subtle differences in position and value.<br />
But faced with this set-up I just didn&#8217;t know how to start and continue the process of relating objects to one another. Is this something that can be explained?</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>g greenblatt</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://adaynotwasted.com/2010/01/accurate-drawing-before-painting/comment-page-1/#comment-469</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 05:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Sherry! I am thrilled that you enjoyed the post. It&#039;s clear that we all have to find our own way of getting to our destination but I am happy to share and even happier that others like you are interested!

Hi Randy. Glad to see you around. I have to say that I am liking this method so far and will likely explore it further. As always, I appreciate you stopping by and perpetually look forward to the day that we can go out an paint together.

Hi Ann. Richard is awesome isn&#039;t he? I have to Thank Perry Brown for turning me onto him. I have found his books and teachings to be invaluable so far. If you buy the book sometime, get it Richard&#039;s website. I believe it is the most cost effective way to obtain it. Take care! /Lee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sherry! I am thrilled that you enjoyed the post. It&#8217;s clear that we all have to find our own way of getting to our destination but I am happy to share and even happier that others like you are interested!</p>
<p>Hi Randy. Glad to see you around. I have to say that I am liking this method so far and will likely explore it further. As always, I appreciate you stopping by and perpetually look forward to the day that we can go out an paint together.</p>
<p>Hi Ann. Richard is awesome isn&#8217;t he? I have to Thank Perry Brown for turning me onto him. I have found his books and teachings to be invaluable so far. If you buy the book sometime, get it Richard&#8217;s website. I believe it is the most cost effective way to obtain it. Take care! /Lee</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Rogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 01:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all ears when you quote Richard, I envy you having his book! Thanks for sharing your detailed progression...well done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all ears when you quote Richard, I envy you having his book! Thanks for sharing your detailed progression&#8230;well done!</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Saffle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Saffle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 04:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m excited to see the next step. Starting with a monochromatic base and then overlaying color has always seemed strange to me. Many artists do this, but I have never attempted one. I wish you well!

ps The value fade on the dark roof is great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m excited to see the next step. Starting with a monochromatic base and then overlaying color has always seemed strange to me. Many artists do this, but I have never attempted one. I wish you well!</p>
<p>ps The value fade on the dark roof is great.</p>
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		<title>By: AutumnLeaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>AutumnLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 12:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great post!  I have always believed that a superb drawing is the foundation for a good painting.  Being as detailed oriented (translation:  anal) as I am, I am so happy to read your point of view, and that of the author&#039;s, on this subject.  Your drawing and value study are beautiful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great post!  I have always believed that a superb drawing is the foundation for a good painting.  Being as detailed oriented (translation:  anal) as I am, I am so happy to read your point of view, and that of the author&#8217;s, on this subject.  Your drawing and value study are beautiful!</p>
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